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		<title>Comment on The Women’s World Day of Prayer Service by Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 21:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHY CHRISTIAN WOMEN PREVAIL

The Women&#039;s World Day of Prayer on Friday, 2nd March, was an uplifting service. Congrats to Jane Kohler and all the others who pooled their efforts and talents to make it a memorable day. 

The service, written by Christian women of Malaysia, highlighted some of the difficulties faced by the Church, as well as other faiths in the multiracial and multi-religious country. For example, the voices seeking justice in Malaysia ask: Do we stay neutral or engage when the state of the nation gives cause for concern?

The response of Malaysian women is that since &#039;God calls us to be righteous citizens of our country, we do have a role to speak out against injustice. For this reason political affairs become a moral responsibility for Christians&#039;. They also attest that it is critical to air their conscience:

1. When political and moral orruption is evident;

2. When discrimination against other races in favour of Malay-Muslim dominance occurs,

3. When restrictions imposed to disallow Christians from using the word Allah (God) in penitance, prayer and publications (despite the view of Arab theologians that no country, creed or culture has sole ownership of the expression) betray common spiritual values. 

As witnesses to the ever-increasing conflict between Sharia and civil laws which tear families apart, Malaysian Christian women justifiably feel it is their &#039;vital duty to raise our voices&#039;. (Presently, when one parent decides to convert to Islam the children are automatically wrenched from the mother. Her faith and rights are brutally ignored, and any recourse to the civil court is redirected to the religious court. 

Readings from Habakuk, who rebukes God about the injustice he witnesses gave pause for thought, as the mainly women congregation of 80+ people with a sprinkling of men were asked to reflect on injustices known to them. Habakuk&#039;s persistence in haranguing God is nevertheless rooted in his relationship with the Almighty and although his confidence in God is tested, it is made stronger by his questions, doubts, complaints and eventual deliverance. For &#039;God, the Lord, is my strength; He makes my feet like the feet of a deer, and makes me tread upon the heights.&#039; (Habakuk 3:17-19)

Clearly in the face of injustice, persistent prayer pays; so Jesus taught us in the parable of the widow and the unjust judge (Luke 18:1-8), for &#039;Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled&#039;. 

Examples of Malaysian women - of all races and religions - who have fought to highlight injustice and address grievances of the oppressed were featured in a talk by Jan Brownfoot. They are Irene Fernandez, who faced a 13-year nightmare court battle for publishing a report on the abuse, torture and dehumanised treatment of migrant workers in Malaysian detention camps; Zainah Anwar, who set up Sisters in Islam to primarily combat the treatment of women as inferior and subordinate to men; Marina Mahathir, who successfully campaigned for all HIV/Aids victims to be given free anti-viral drugs; and Ambiga Sreenevasan, a former president of the Malaysian Bar Council who is spearheading a campaign for clean elections and has had to hire bodyguards because her advocacy has led to threats of physical violence, including rape, against her. All these women have been recipients of awards from international organisations and/or world governments for their courage and leadership. In the 21st Century the rights of women worldwide continue to be trampled on but also fought for. 

The roles of the suffragettes in the early 1900s, and in 1968 the campaign of women workers at the Ford factory in Dagenham for equal pay with men doing the same work were held up for reflection on injustices in Britain. The congregation was asked to ponder what small steps they could take to advocate for change about injustices that they were deeply concerned about. Has there been a revolutionary transformation when the glass ceilings in many blue-chip companies continue to be a permanent feature? 

The evocative service began with a percussion ensemble playing Malaysian beats and music, and a traditional Malay greeting of Selamat Datang (Peace and Welcome). The readers and those who recited &#039;voices&#039; of Malaysian women were dressed in various types of Malaysian costume, making it a colourful and joyous embracing of religion and cultures. A PowerPoint display flashed images of the country, as well as of some of the women (mentioned above), onto screens. The offertory taken up was for the work of Women&#039;s World Day of Prayer and for Christian projects around the world. 

The service at Sudbury&#039;s Baptist Church ended with everyone mingling with cups of tea and coffee, and munching biscuits and keropok (Malaysian prawn crackers!). 

I could only wish that more men would attend to celebrate the work of our Christian women.

Matt George</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHY CHRISTIAN WOMEN PREVAIL</p>
<p>The Women&#8217;s World Day of Prayer on Friday, 2nd March, was an uplifting service. Congrats to Jane Kohler and all the others who pooled their efforts and talents to make it a memorable day. </p>
<p>The service, written by Christian women of Malaysia, highlighted some of the difficulties faced by the Church, as well as other faiths in the multiracial and multi-religious country. For example, the voices seeking justice in Malaysia ask: Do we stay neutral or engage when the state of the nation gives cause for concern?</p>
<p>The response of Malaysian women is that since &#8216;God calls us to be righteous citizens of our country, we do have a role to speak out against injustice. For this reason political affairs become a moral responsibility for Christians&#8217;. They also attest that it is critical to air their conscience:</p>
<p>1. When political and moral orruption is evident;</p>
<p>2. When discrimination against other races in favour of Malay-Muslim dominance occurs,</p>
<p>3. When restrictions imposed to disallow Christians from using the word Allah (God) in penitance, prayer and publications (despite the view of Arab theologians that no country, creed or culture has sole ownership of the expression) betray common spiritual values. </p>
<p>As witnesses to the ever-increasing conflict between Sharia and civil laws which tear families apart, Malaysian Christian women justifiably feel it is their &#8216;vital duty to raise our voices&#8217;. (Presently, when one parent decides to convert to Islam the children are automatically wrenched from the mother. Her faith and rights are brutally ignored, and any recourse to the civil court is redirected to the religious court. </p>
<p>Readings from Habakuk, who rebukes God about the injustice he witnesses gave pause for thought, as the mainly women congregation of 80+ people with a sprinkling of men were asked to reflect on injustices known to them. Habakuk&#8217;s persistence in haranguing God is nevertheless rooted in his relationship with the Almighty and although his confidence in God is tested, it is made stronger by his questions, doubts, complaints and eventual deliverance. For &#8216;God, the Lord, is my strength; He makes my feet like the feet of a deer, and makes me tread upon the heights.&#8217; (Habakuk 3:17-19)</p>
<p>Clearly in the face of injustice, persistent prayer pays; so Jesus taught us in the parable of the widow and the unjust judge (Luke 18:1-8), for &#8216;Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled&#8217;. </p>
<p>Examples of Malaysian women &#8211; of all races and religions &#8211; who have fought to highlight injustice and address grievances of the oppressed were featured in a talk by Jan Brownfoot. They are Irene Fernandez, who faced a 13-year nightmare court battle for publishing a report on the abuse, torture and dehumanised treatment of migrant workers in Malaysian detention camps; Zainah Anwar, who set up Sisters in Islam to primarily combat the treatment of women as inferior and subordinate to men; Marina Mahathir, who successfully campaigned for all HIV/Aids victims to be given free anti-viral drugs; and Ambiga Sreenevasan, a former president of the Malaysian Bar Council who is spearheading a campaign for clean elections and has had to hire bodyguards because her advocacy has led to threats of physical violence, including rape, against her. All these women have been recipients of awards from international organisations and/or world governments for their courage and leadership. In the 21st Century the rights of women worldwide continue to be trampled on but also fought for. </p>
<p>The roles of the suffragettes in the early 1900s, and in 1968 the campaign of women workers at the Ford factory in Dagenham for equal pay with men doing the same work were held up for reflection on injustices in Britain. The congregation was asked to ponder what small steps they could take to advocate for change about injustices that they were deeply concerned about. Has there been a revolutionary transformation when the glass ceilings in many blue-chip companies continue to be a permanent feature? </p>
<p>The evocative service began with a percussion ensemble playing Malaysian beats and music, and a traditional Malay greeting of Selamat Datang (Peace and Welcome). The readers and those who recited &#8216;voices&#8217; of Malaysian women were dressed in various types of Malaysian costume, making it a colourful and joyous embracing of religion and cultures. A PowerPoint display flashed images of the country, as well as of some of the women (mentioned above), onto screens. The offertory taken up was for the work of Women&#8217;s World Day of Prayer and for Christian projects around the world. </p>
<p>The service at Sudbury&#8217;s Baptist Church ended with everyone mingling with cups of tea and coffee, and munching biscuits and keropok (Malaysian prawn crackers!). </p>
<p>I could only wish that more men would attend to celebrate the work of our Christian women.</p>
<p>Matt George</p>
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		<title>Comment on Men in Christ by Peter Sebbage</title>
		<link>http://churchestogetherinsudbury.org.uk/men-in-christ-2/comment-page-1#comment-7689</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Sebbage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William Wordsworth has some wisdom for us to reply to the anti- Christ lobby of militant atheists in his poem The Prelude (book 2.i.211)
   Science appears but what in truth is she?
   Not as our glory and our absolute boast,
   but as a succedaneum and a prop
   to our infirmity.
  succedaneum = a substitute and a prop
I didn&#039;t know either</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William Wordsworth has some wisdom for us to reply to the anti- Christ lobby of militant atheists in his poem The Prelude (book 2.i.211)<br />
   Science appears but what in truth is she?<br />
   Not as our glory and our absolute boast,<br />
   but as a succedaneum and a prop<br />
   to our infirmity.<br />
  succedaneum = a substitute and a prop<br />
I didn&#8217;t know either</p>
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		<title>Comment on Men in Christ by Peter Sebbage</title>
		<link>http://churchestogetherinsudbury.org.uk/men-in-christ-2/comment-page-1#comment-7554</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Sebbage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 11:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MICS Thought for the day.

If 50% of the nation are men why don&#039;t we see 50% men represented in church?
Is it because they are not being invited or encouraged or is it because they havn&#039;t heard of the Men in Christ&#039;s breakfast at Jaquis on Wednesday am 7.30?  &gt;  Peter S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MICS Thought for the day.</p>
<p>If 50% of the nation are men why don&#8217;t we see 50% men represented in church?<br />
Is it because they are not being invited or encouraged or is it because they havn&#8217;t heard of the Men in Christ&#8217;s breakfast at Jaquis on Wednesday am 7.30?  &gt;  Peter S.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Men in Christ by David Ford</title>
		<link>http://churchestogetherinsudbury.org.uk/men-in-christ-2/comment-page-1#comment-7522</link>
		<dc:creator>David Ford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovely to see it on the CTiS&amp;D website</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely to see it on the CTiS&amp;D website</p>
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		<title>Comment on Understanding Islam &#8211; did you miss it? by Colin Chapman</title>
		<link>http://churchestogetherinsudbury.org.uk/understanding-islam-on-youtube/comment-page-1#comment-6386</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question of women in Islam is a very tricky one - and I find it very difficult to get the balance right. In a number of Islamic contexts (like Afghanistan) the position of women is certainly pretty depressing. But your friend has also drawn attention to the fact that in some contexts Muslim women are as liberated as others are. I&#039;m sending as an attachment the chapter on Women in Islam from my book &#039;Cross and Crescent: responding to the challenges of Islam.&#039; I&#039;ve tried hard to get the balance right - and fear I haven&#039;t succeeded. But hope it gives some more background on the subject and the variety of positions and views within the Muslim world.
With best wishes, Colin. 
(Note: For the chapter on ‘Women in Islam’ see the following &lt;a href=&quot;http://churchestogetherinsudbury.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/WOMEN-in-Islam-from-C-Chapman-book-3.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question of women in Islam is a very tricky one &#8211; and I find it very difficult to get the balance right. In a number of Islamic contexts (like Afghanistan) the position of women is certainly pretty depressing. But your friend has also drawn attention to the fact that in some contexts Muslim women are as liberated as others are. I&#8217;m sending as an attachment the chapter on Women in Islam from my book &#8216;Cross and Crescent: responding to the challenges of Islam.&#8217; I&#8217;ve tried hard to get the balance right &#8211; and fear I haven&#8217;t succeeded. But hope it gives some more background on the subject and the variety of positions and views within the Muslim world.<br />
With best wishes, Colin.<br />
(Note: For the chapter on ‘Women in Islam’ see the following <a href="http://churchestogetherinsudbury.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/WOMEN-in-Islam-from-C-Chapman-book-3.pdf" rel="nofollow">link</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Understanding Islam &#8211; did you miss it? by Evarist &#38; Julia Saliba</title>
		<link>http://churchestogetherinsudbury.org.uk/understanding-islam-on-youtube/comment-page-1#comment-6381</link>
		<dc:creator>Evarist &#38; Julia Saliba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 09:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We were very impressed by the presentation of quite a complicated subject. Even though many facts were not new to us, their presentation was quite striking. I quote in particular the contrast of one &#039;empire&#039; being replaced by another with their link to colonialism.
 
The question which I was tempted to put from the floor was about the status of women in Islam. I had put this question to a Moroccan lady attending a meeting organised by the British Foreign Office on the Mediterranean. She was dressed like a Parisian model, with full but discreet makeup, and with an excellent academic background. Her answer was that Mohammed had raised the status of women, but no sooner was he dead that Muslim men took steps to put women back into their subservient state.
 
Yes, I believe that another talk on the same subject by an Imam, chaired by Rev.Colin would be a good idea.
 
Having said that, I would add that the &quot;clash (not war) of civilizations&quot; is inevitable as long as accomodation, and tolerance, is expected from one side only.
 
Thank you for the opportunity to hear Rev. Colin.
 
Julia and Evarist Saliba</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were very impressed by the presentation of quite a complicated subject. Even though many facts were not new to us, their presentation was quite striking. I quote in particular the contrast of one &#8216;empire&#8217; being replaced by another with their link to colonialism.</p>
<p>The question which I was tempted to put from the floor was about the status of women in Islam. I had put this question to a Moroccan lady attending a meeting organised by the British Foreign Office on the Mediterranean. She was dressed like a Parisian model, with full but discreet makeup, and with an excellent academic background. Her answer was that Mohammed had raised the status of women, but no sooner was he dead that Muslim men took steps to put women back into their subservient state.</p>
<p>Yes, I believe that another talk on the same subject by an Imam, chaired by Rev.Colin would be a good idea.</p>
<p>Having said that, I would add that the &#8220;clash (not war) of civilizations&#8221; is inevitable as long as accomodation, and tolerance, is expected from one side only.</p>
<p>Thank you for the opportunity to hear Rev. Colin.</p>
<p>Julia and Evarist Saliba</p>
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		<title>Comment on CTiS&amp;D AGM by Malcolm S</title>
		<link>http://churchestogetherinsudbury.org.uk/ctisd-agm/comment-page-1#comment-5977</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 10:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The meeting was attended by 46 people from 15 churches and other organisations, and preceded by refreshments generously provided by members of the host church. 

After worship led by Suffolk Road Church and welcomes to newcomers, we considered and approved reports and accounts. The chairman commented on the good cooperation between churches and the strength of Churches Together in Sudbury &amp; District. We re-elected the current officers and heard about the local Fellowship Football league, where eight teams play with a Christian ethos and without a referee. 

The final part of an interesting evening was spent in small groups discussing ideas for future activities, where many new ideas emerged.
The full minutes will be available in due course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The meeting was attended by 46 people from 15 churches and other organisations, and preceded by refreshments generously provided by members of the host church. </p>
<p>After worship led by Suffolk Road Church and welcomes to newcomers, we considered and approved reports and accounts. The chairman commented on the good cooperation between churches and the strength of Churches Together in Sudbury &amp; District. We re-elected the current officers and heard about the local Fellowship Football league, where eight teams play with a Christian ethos and without a referee. </p>
<p>The final part of an interesting evening was spent in small groups discussing ideas for future activities, where many new ideas emerged.<br />
The full minutes will be available in due course.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CTiS&amp;D AGM by Roger</title>
		<link>http://churchestogetherinsudbury.org.uk/ctisd-agm/comment-page-1#comment-5976</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 19:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Suffolk Road church for your terrific hospitality! A great evening of encouragement. May God&#039;s Spirit truly guide us all in genuine fellowship in the year to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Suffolk Road church for your terrific hospitality! A great evening of encouragement. May God&#8217;s Spirit truly guide us all in genuine fellowship in the year to come.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Prayer 48 Photographs by Churches Together in Sudbury &#38; District &#187; Blog Archive &#187; “PRAYER 48”</title>
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		<dc:creator>Churches Together in Sudbury &#38; District &#187; Blog Archive &#187; “PRAYER 48”</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2011 12:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Prayer 48 Photographs [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on TRADITIONAL GARDEN FETE by Jackie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, are there any contact details for us to book a stall at this event?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, are there any contact details for us to book a stall at this event?</p>
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